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   By No. 97 on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 1:57 pm:  Edit

Mac 哥 講得好

   By 下海客 on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 1:48 pm:  Edit

做錯事網友搵咁多理由辯駁
唔比人狂插就有鬼
想平息事件一係認錯一係收口
呢度D人最多插多幾下無人回應無癮就會收口
總好過自己地方隻字不提 人地地方就大大聲聲
給人撩交打的感覺

   By 初學新行友 on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 12:46 pm:  Edit

其實有人的地方就有是非,不過以這一件事對一些網及網站的網主及網友作出如此評價實在是過火。
對sshh 不公 。
過度批評是有反效果的。
如何才是合適係唔易,不過再看一下是否過龍就應該知道的了。

   By QQ on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 12:46 pm:  Edit

QQQ

   By 膠人 on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 12:30 pm:  Edit

見到其他山或海不平事或破壞大自然唔環保事就"耳聞目見"指責一番, 如果係自己人就只係小事, 邊個從未亂掉過垃圾, 邊個從未試過山上大小二便, 邊個未浪費過一個膠袋, 云云..

   By 大口文 on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 11:34 am:  Edit

上山下海活躍會員有幾多...????
係咪上山下海搾FIT人叫你出黎講野, 你地做錯事冇資格出黎插人, 你地唔係身有屎, 駛乜刪除D相, 個個好似你地咁質數.


我地真係眼紅上山下海做到甩皮甩骨.不知所謂無品德會員人數直線上升,唔抵得有人係縮頭烏龜, 越來越有破壞力.

   By weekendriver on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 11:32 am:  Edit

Re: 辛XX
自稱三合會成員是犯法的.

Re: 山海
你如何得到匿名文章是這裡的領隊發的?

Re: ALL

討論已經由舉報變成互相攻擊, 而且大部分是匿名又有可能是冒名文章, 冇証冇據更要小心被告緋謗! 報紙賣唔少.

   By 辛Yvonne on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 11:06 am:  Edit

有證據既你就快d去報漁農處啦,仲等乜野?唔好得把口喎

只係一盞燈,一個二個就急不及待走出黎做正義判官
仲不停唱衰 sshh 網站,話人地 "網主縱容" / "會員質素差" 云云
除左「反智」我真係唸唔到其他形容詞 ......

   By 山海 on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 10:53 am:  Edit

你地班人真係低Q能,又係做道德判官.

你地眼紅上山下海做得有聲有色.會員人數直線上升,唔抵得Mac 哥越來越有影響力.

你地班領隊利用hiking.com匿名機制伺機打擊,真係好無耻!

係度搞事,不如好好反省下點解自己隊D人越來越少,質素,水平越來越低.

   By Kei on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 9:33 am:  Edit

回覆:雖然山下海網“民”化一向都係槍口對外
回覆:諸多借口仲想拉其他行山隊落水
回覆:我save多張照片, 我諗住報漁農處

各位請饒恕SSHH人士, 佢哋根本無得反擊, SSHH網主風度都沒有, 一個好領導者要為下屬承擔負責, 如果SSHH人士要討論, 請返回SSHH討論, 只有SSHH先容納到唔面對錯誤的人.報漁農處可比SSHH人士有警惕同阻嚇作用

   By BB on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 12:56 am:  Edit

諸多借口仲想拉其他行山隊落水
不知所謂

   By 怒人 on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 12:42 am:  Edit

算吧啦! 過左個幾月, 標上果支提燈係邊個帶上黎邊個知. 你地指個次活動果支可能仲係垃圾桶內. 伯公坳修路中, 大家今個周末上鳳頂去路上可能搵到十支八支. 不如叫有關部門加強保安啦!

有人/行山隊樹大招風畀人告發, 可能另一邊箱有另一人/行山隊正在偷笑.

依度開始對人不對事.

   By 花生友 on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 12:23 am:  Edit

咁不如叫佢做提燈中坑啦 ..

   By 小鬍子如花 on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 12:20 am:  Edit

>>奉勸上山下海成員 , 唔好利用Hiking.com 作為缺德事件討論平台. 唔駛!
提燈少年在少年時常常在hiking.com.hk出現,都唔知係唔係你教壞佢.

   By 路人 on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 12:08 am:  Edit

小弟於十月二日到過鳳凰山頂, 我可以肯定三角測量站上沒有掛上任何東西, 反而在往塘福路口旁發現兩個類似指示燈及一支毀壞了的手杖, 當中一個指示燈上面寫上x記(不完整白色字), 而且仍然照明中.

相信亦是一些夜行人士留下.

   By Keika Kei on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 11:31 pm:  Edit

回覆:果邊d人比你影衰晒

果邊班人唔駛影都衰, 仲以為為果邊未被人道D處女地.

奉勸上山下海成員 , 唔好利用Hiking.com 作為缺德事件討論平台. 唔駛!

   By 小鬍子如花 on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 10:31 pm:  Edit

:-{ 小弟好多年前之前已經跟旅行隊,你不如屈埋佢地呀.
仲有呀提燈果個都成三張,仲係少年?
最好哩度改反有得顯示IP.

   By BB on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 9:59 pm:  Edit

>>反正在此留言又見唔到IP,你喜歡點抹黑都得!!

你都真係死不悔改...果邊d人比你影衰晒

   By 花生友 on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 9:21 pm:  Edit

眾隊員都三緘其口, 或者係無討論價值啦, 我諗你地都係算吧, 再講都無用 ...

   By 小鬍子如花 on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 7:58 pm:  Edit

:-{ 好呀一于搞太佢!!
反正在此留言又見唔到IP,你喜歡點抹黑都得!!

   By 小題大做 on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 7:13 pm:  Edit

我save多張照片, 我諗住報漁農處, 我情願go2nature.net會員, 網上吹水就夠, 討論是是非非較適合, 登山唔俾人歧視, 自己都冇面 . 唉.

計我話, 各行山比賽應列go2nature.net為黑名單, 網主亦要負上部份責任, 唔係道歉之後草草了事, 毀滅證據.

我愛登山, 不要破壞王.

   By 自由人 on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 6:55 pm:  Edit

我都認同如果當事人係自己地頭出聲認錯, 咁可以肯定係當時人.
(如果)扮當事人認錯會比人感覺佢地網民行為可恥.
除網主同領隊係個邊出過聲外, 其他當日有去行既人隻字不提, 我都覺得佢地毫無悔意.

   By 東南西北 on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 6:35 pm:  Edit

我要囡囡∼∼∼∼∼

   By 方向 on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 6:29 pm:  Edit

夠了∼根本是我個人問題,跟上山下海沒有關係!!

   By Keika (Kei) on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 6:21 pm:  Edit

回覆: 有心認錯請在上山下海用自己戶口留言
這裡人人也可以做方向

我認為無須於上山下海道歉, 今次事件上山下海人人隻字不提, 當無事發生. 唔糸行山網有好心人舉報缺德事件, 該網負責人都唔行出黎做場戲, 記得醜事唔好傳千里, 我誓死都唔比仔女成為上山下海會員.

   By 你不是 on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 6:14 pm:  Edit

網名方向並不是該隊領隊.本人認識他.

   By 方向 on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 5:55 pm:  Edit

有心認錯請在上山下海用自己戶口留言
這裡人人也可以做方向

   By 方向 on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 5:49 pm:  Edit

對不起∼我今次是做錯了∼∼∼請不要因為我一個人的錯而怪到其他人身上!!
小弟在此多謝某些行友的諒解和支持∼∼∼我以後會注意提高道德標準,做個有責任感的男人∼∼∼

   By ??????? on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 5:46 pm:  Edit

I believe Snail is not the leader. The leader must the man who carried the road lamp which appeared in the first picture .
I appreciate Snail also.

   By Keika (Kei) on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 5:41 pm:  Edit

無懲罰已等於縱容, 網主一定同該行山人士關係好好,真虛偽, 睇下(上山下海俱樂部)捱得幾耐.

前衛生局長楊永強班下屬做錯, 楊生都要落台.

   By 自由人 on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 5:28 pm:  Edit

就算係垃圾筒執垃圾其實已經違法
只不過絕少執行檢控但唔等於可以咁做

再者修路燈一廂情願話係人地唔要, 係consumable
呢d燈只係用到壞先唔要, 無電就換電.
點會著住個陣話係工人唔要掉左, 簡直強詞奪理
就算唔係雪高筒拆落黎而係街邊執黎用都係唔應該既行為
係唔係公物根本唔係重點.
唔通有人係屋偷左部手電掉係街邊有人行過執左黎用
比人捉到話係街邊執, 無人要既環保所以自己用.
唔係偷返黎係執黎用所以無問題?!

呢件事唔關領隊同網主事, 相信只不過係個別會員行為.
領隊已公開道歉(其實佢都幾無辜)
網主亦再三提醒各會員日後要再三注意言行.
反而當事人就閃埋一邊聲都唔聲,
咁樣似乎唔係一種對自己過失行為既承擔.
當然人身攻擊就更加唔應該.

希望個別網友唔好再用強詞奪理既埋由幫當時人洗脫罪名,
咁做只會令人覺得佢地網民只識死撐, 令人反感討厭.
錯就係錯, 知錯、認錯、肯承擔反而更令人欣賞.

   By Keika (Kei) on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 5:20 pm:  Edit

回覆SSHH

SSHH 網會員的素質行為於行山界為手指尾, 請你不用狡辯, 承認錯誤別人先會原諒, 該領隊該活動於SSHH地方作''召集'', SSHH卻不承認責任, 滿口仁義道德. 最後SSHH個名遺臭萬年.

   By e仔 on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 4:46 pm:  Edit

因利成便,順手牽羊,
胡作妄為,目無法紀,
理應;誠心悔過,
勿再;重滔覆切。

   By e仔 on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 4:24 pm:  Edit

在郊野,很多時都會見到牛屎,但奇怪在見到牛屎時,一般人都唔會有太大反應。但係當見到狗屎,反應就會有些唔同。有人就擔心附近係唔係有野狗出沒,有人就埋怨帶狗行山應有責任清理便溺,但係點都唔會有人怪隻狗亂痾。不過如果pat野係類似人屎;嘩!一定會被人群起攻之,近至佢娘親有冇家教,遠至香港特區教育政策都好似有好大問題。
講真,唔理牛屎好定人屎好,冇人叫你云食,又或者叫你去摸,實質係乜,又有何相干呢?我好難想像有人會尊程上山,冒著被蟲咬蚊釘的風險,隨處紮馬。咁,我地又可唔可以容忍}有急事的那些人呢?

   By Yes! on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 4:13 pm:  Edit

>>乘機進行人身攻擊就離哂題啦!

點解提燈少年咁多仇口?
我見過佢本人又幾好人幾老實,唔覺佢有搞女。

   By SSHH on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 3:58 pm:  Edit

>>又糸上山下海網, 做過唔怕認.
>>不過好似網主叫D會員刪除某相片.
>>請該會負責人, 注意會員本身紀律

上山下海只係個比行山人仕溝通的平台,網主冇權亦冇責任去叫會員注意本身紀律

   By PoP on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 3:30 pm:  Edit

今次事件重點係有人“拾取”修路閃燈,帶o左上山、留低o左,屬於個別人士行為問題…

雖然山下海網“民”化一向都係槍口對外,但係乘機進行人身攻擊就離哂題啦!

   By !!! on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 1:03 pm:  Edit

我很欣賞Snail知錯、認錯、肯承擔責任又肯作出承諾的行山人.作為領隊,為何不出來說話?!叫會員刪除相片是縮頭烏龜的行為啊!

   By 保育人 on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 12:32 pm:  Edit

更正:是狗隻隨處便溺是法律不容許的

   By 保育人 on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 12:09 pm:  Edit

重要的是擅取公物和破壞公物是任何年齡都法網難逃.就好像有不法之徒除處塗上自己的惡名和惡隊名一樣劣品.
另外,奇隻隨處便溺是法律不容許的,但若有人在大自然裡如此是可以諒解的.

   By Engineer on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 9:57 am:  Edit

Come on! Such Traffic Barrier Lamp (technical term) can be easily obtained from any construction safety suppliers. It operated by 3.6V rechargeable battery and LED luminescent, and is programmed to blind at 1Hz. I don't know the MOQ but you can ask your construction site friend to buy one for you. However, as I know, the same model can't be set to "lighting mode", they always blind!

We regard such portable tools as consumable. Some workers may depose the defeated lamp with other waste in the wild though I don't agree with such behavior. Personally I don't see any problem if you picked and reused it. He didn't break into your door and capture your furniture, right?

   By Keika (Kei) on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 1:22 am:  Edit

又糸上山下海網, 做過唔怕認.

不過好似網主叫D會員刪除某相片.

請該會負責人, 注意會員本身紀律

   By 自由人 on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 1:06 am:  Edit

欣賞snail作為領隊敢於認錯同承擔

當時人做錯左就係做錯左,
其他人用各種理由替當時人解話只會更令人反感.
反而出黎認下錯大家會原諒佢一時不智既行為.

   By Barry on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 9:55 pm:  Edit

小題大做

   By 危乎乎 on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 9:22 pm:  Edit

如果有看過album,你們就知道不止一個提燈者。
為怎麼一口咬定"提燈少年(/中年)"是偷燈者?就憑他是album中第一個出現的提燈者?這未免太不公了吧!

還有,崩石柱同發現有屎係另外二件事(只不過地點相近)...你們有意無意把這二件事都算進snail團頭上也有欠公平。

無可否認,"提燈少年"的性格容易得罪人,有人借意攻擊佢都見怪不怪...但佢對大自然同山野活動既愛護同熱誠有目共賭,我唔信佢有心破壞。

   By 燈神 on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 8:57 pm:  Edit

>>提燈少年
>>專門利用行山活動搞女,係香港行山旅行界的耻辱.
> 無證無據唔好亂up,而家講嘅係提燈...又關搞女事?
咁又係, 而家個個都係單方面咁講, 對當事人好似唔係咁公平, 不如等提燈者自己上來解下話啦... 一邊潛埋, 一邊佢有佢講, 咁就越描越黑啦.

   By 賤人一號 on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 8:50 pm:  Edit

yes agree, I see Dogs 大小二便 anywhere on the street as that is a part of their life.
icic... I got your points la.. If a thief stole something and dropped some on the street, you pick it and bring it back to home and enjoy it, I think there is nothing wrong, and well done !
Yes right, I think I might not complain if I see rubbish or empty cup noodle ... etc inside the shelter.

   By 危永標 on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 8:48 pm:  Edit

>>提燈少年
>>專門利用行山活動搞女,係香港行山旅行界的耻辱.

無證無據唔好亂up,而家講嘅係提燈...又關搞女事?

   By ah hong on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 6:43 pm:  Edit

It depends how and your definition of 缺德 in the case.

1) someone throw or left something on the street and you pick it up reuse it, why you say he is 缺德, may be he loves 環保.

For instance, a lot of people is picking up 舊傢俬雜物 near the refuse room everyday and bring it back home, reuse or resale it. Are you going to complaint they are 缺德要執舊野?

2) left 糞/ 尿 somewhere in country park as there is no toilet around. What is the problem? Any one telling me who never did 大小二便 in our country park without going to near around toilet (may be 5 miles away)?

Remember there is still a lot of wild animals living in our country park. They are 大小二便 anywhere as that is a part of life.

Are you going in the grass with the height higher than you body height if you are that guy? Sure no la, because you are afraid of snake there.

3) Did you see that gay break that post? If yes, you may complaint he is 缺德 as that post is 公家物品. Others you can say anything.

The only problem left is someone throw that lamp away there and haven't bring it back to our modern refuse bin.

Besides, I am interesting to know if anyone going to complaint again if that lamp was left in the shelter (there is a shelter at the peak of Lantau?

   By 危天行 on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 12:46 pm:  Edit

事件一:
缺德者在西狗牙起步點對上十米處左右排糞一堆

事件二:
到鳳凰頂時, 見三角測量站柱頂石屎邊冇左一部份

事件三:
拿一個指示燈作照明工具


是三件不相同的事件,請不要把責任全歸Snail。

   By New Hiker on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 11:55 am:  Edit

Questions:
Who and why deleted the "PEOPLE" who carried the road lamp?
The survey station seems not to be destroyed by natural force if we look at the damaged one carefully. The campers always bring with hammer.
路人,Have you seen the sunrise?

   By ah hong on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 9:10 am:  Edit

>I guess the station was possibly already damaged before Sep 23, by human being or natural.

By human being, ha ha ha. So funny.

You are welcome to use Karate to try to cut similar post and let us know the result.

   By c c on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 12:29 am:  Edit

>>有缺德者在西狗牙起步點(即警告牌開始)對上十米處左右排糞一堆,
製作途中比人捉住隻腳做手位o米死.

   By Silence on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 11:02 pm:  Edit

Providing that everyone are honest and the photos from different parties are real.

Looks like someone took the road lamp to the toilet in a day on or before Sep 23. Maybe the toilet is too dark.

Then the guy on Sep 23 found the lamp and picked up as a torch for his trip, and left it on the peak.

I guess the station was possibly already damaged before Sep 23, by human being or natural.

Next, another guy, who reach there after Sep 30, found the lamp and hang it on the station. Possibly for fun coz obviously the lamp was out of battery already.

Luckily the station was not located near the cliff or someone on the ridge might be hurt.

Don't overlook a tiny event.

   By 路人丙 on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 10:35 pm:  Edit

係咪佢地整爛條柱就好難講, 但"拎"人地個燈上山咁樣就真係抵打, 一般理解都會知道呢 d 燈係屬於有關工程部門機構... 姑勿論有無比另一d手多人放左係洗手間旁, 都不該擅自 "拾取" 上山使用/把玩...

   By John Wong (Honey_badger) on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 10:30 pm:  Edit

I would like to provide some photos for your hikers to see how the survey station to have been damaged within these 2.5 months:

This photo was taken by me on 22-Aug-07 when the survey station appeared intact:
ok

This photo is given by other reporter showing the condition of the survey station at that night. Survey station appears obviously damaged in some days of the 2.5 months period. Person's face is hiddened as I only want to show the survey station condition.
not ok

   By John Wong (Honey_badger) on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 10:23 pm:  Edit

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   By 路人 on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 9:59 pm:  Edit

Sep30我o地成班係上面都無野o係柱度
http://www.xanga.com/onemalecat/619208303/item.html
點解10月尾先有的o野,你地話sep23上去果班人行為天地不容

   By 爆料 on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 9:34 pm:  Edit

>>提燈少年
呢條友上山下海,自遊人,駿騏領隊,專門利用行山活動搞女,係香港行山旅行界的耻辱.
http://go2nature.net/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=27

   By passby on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 8:13 pm:  Edit

oh... 提燈少年相片已被刪除了 ...

   By 行山人 on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 5:49 pm:  Edit

請該領隊出來親自解畫吧!領隊都避不見面,避風頭去了!

   By No.97 on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 5:16 pm:  Edit

photo No.97?

   By 不平人 on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 4:40 pm:  Edit

THIS?
http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2555664830102200333tqWzhL

\係好出名既行山隊領隊黎架!你地點可以咁批評\

   By racingisfun on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 3:19 pm:  Edit

I believe Snail's group had only brought the lamp, as he said, to Lantau Peak without destroyed the land survey station pole. Lantau Trail is a hot trail in Hong Kong, it is impossible that the incident hadn't been recognized by other hikers in over 1 month.

Would someone else pick up the lamp again in the garbage bin and tight it to the pole? Or it is another lamp brought by another camper.

   By John Wong (Honey_badger) on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 2:23 pm:  Edit

Ngu,
&#62?&uuml&#62?&uuml無憑無據, 你睇著?amp;#92?&uuml痾咩?流浪狗、牛痾唔得咩?
This web site is a place for hikers to share their ideas, opinions and the like, there is no point for me to think of a story and then spend minutes to complete the paragraph and then do a lot of answer backs thereafter.

Notwithstanding that if I post the photo related to the human&#39?&uumls faecal mater some would say I may good at Photoshop for retouching and merging of photos.

Furthermore, the conditons there is a high cliff and virtually impossible for dogs and cows to climb up. Assuming they can reach there, they would not do The Call of Nature near the dangerous cliff edge.

   By ngu (Ngu) on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 2:01 pm:  Edit

****************************************************
有缺德者在西狗牙起步點(即警告牌開始)對上十米處左右排糞一堆,
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無憑無據,唔好亂講。你點知係有人痾屎先?你睇著佢痾咩?流浪狗、牛痾唔得咩?

   By Ctitical Thinking on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 1:48 pm:  Edit

I don't believe what Snail said. Friends, Look those pictures again carefully. Were they holding the same road lamp?

   By John Wong (Honey_badger) on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 1:35 pm:  Edit

Snail,

I would believe your people would not do that thing as I can see your hiking mates are mostly adult and the case of pickuing up of ababdoned lamp from the adjacent toilet area is also trustable.

Normally speaking, the lamp-taking-away is just kid's behaviour. Kids need time to build up conscience progressively.

I would back you up is, based to my observation those yellow lamps mounted to the ice-cone barriers along the Pak Kung Au have two nuts fastened to two bolts and with special 'head cup' covered to the nuts for preventing loosening or detachment. If one intend to take the lamp away one may either use spanner to do that or resort to forciful action for removing it from the cone's head. If forciful action is used the hiking leader should know.

Anyway, don't get upset by this.

   By New Hiker on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 12:12 pm:  Edit

Snail,
Is it true? Do you know they are not naughty guys,they are thieves, destroyers and criminal offenders.

   By Snail (Snail) on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 11:12 am:  Edit

我係9月30日~你們所指活動之召集人
對於事件,我非常抱歉!會再在檢討與反省

我得承認當日起步後已發現隊尾有人拿一個指示燈作照明工具
即場詢問下得知為臨時洗手間地上旁拾取..不是於馬路上交通堆上拆取
由於當事人沒有其他照明工具,所以本人也一時不以為意...警覺性不足!
因天光時,鳳頂大霧人多混亂,本人的小組也分開兩面下山...也忘記了指示燈一事
及後得知...當事人沒有將其放回原位,只將指示燈放在山頂垃圾箱內

身為召集人本人是有責任提醒及阻止參加者所有不當行為
對於自己當時之意識及警覺性不足,沒有阻止參加者之行徑
再三各大家抱歉!...會檢討活動安排及警告當事人

本人參與山野活動多年...一向奉行不留行跡之原則


-當事人聲稱只拾取地上一個指示燈,沒有於交通堆上拆取
-其指示燈是放在山頂垃圾箱內後離開

-聲明-本人與活動小組各參加者....
-沒有破壞三角測量站
-沒有安置指示燈於三角測量站上
-沒有於非指定露營地點,作露營及生火行為


註:一般三角測量站遭破壞實為自然雷擊所致

   By John Wong (Honey_badger) on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 6:08 pm:  Edit

行山人,

That is a simple yellow road lamp with chargeable battery installed inside and commonly available in genreal road works of HK.

I suspect the lamp was simply taken away by naughty guy from the road works along the Tung Chung Road of Pak Kung Au. Look at the photo you will find some lamp which are supposed to be attached to the ice-cone barrier are found missing.

i

   By 舉報人士 on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 3:36 pm:  Edit

他們的行為天地不容!

9月23日~夏之鳳凰賞日出 後記
http://go2nature.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23463

活動相片LINK
http://outdoors.webshots.com/album/560829986yoEhiM?vhost=outdoors

   By 行山人 on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 2:58 pm:  Edit

這些路燈普通人可以在普通的地方買到嗎?還是它是屬於政府的公物呢?如果是政府公物,哪露營的人在那裡取得它們呢?鳳凰山山頂晚上是很光的,無須加照明燈啊!無論如何,我認為這些人應該去這裡上課:Wilderness Education Association of Hong Kong─ Leave No Trace Centre for outdoor Ethics. It is a Master Educator Instructor Course. Mobile No:96674090
是【不留痕跡】的課程

   By John Wong (Honey_badger) on Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 10:08 pm:  Edit

Nite hiker,
1) Governement people would not install the signal indicator in such a scruffy manner and untidy way.
2) Surveying can be done at day time and no need for doing at night time.
3) If for signalling purpose as your mentioned, Government will install a more durable and purposely-built equipment. That road lamp is quite dim for the intended purpose.
4) Land/Mapping/Survey Offices would not allow their structures to be destroyed in order to facilitate other depts.

行山人,
I guess this could be the night-camper who stayed on Lantau Peak by one night in order for seeing sunrise tomorrow. So, new camping site at Ngong Ping has nothing to do with their intended sight-seeing need.

The road lamp can be switched to blinking/lighting mode which therefore enable him for use as camping night at night time - I believe.

   By Nite Hiker on Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 8:42 pm:  Edit

The blinking light set on the survey station seems to be for surveying purpose during the night when the sky is more clear.

   By 行山人 on Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 2:21 pm:  Edit

昂平巳有一個新的露營區,是合法的.遊人、行山人、露營人無須以身試法,即使冇人睇到.
難道

   By John Wong (Honey_badger) on Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 11:38 am:  Edit

事件一:
昨天從西狗牙再上鳳凰山頂﹐但有缺德者在西狗牙起步點(即警告牌開始)對上十米處左右排糞一堆, 留在石邊附近(上爬時視線看不到的), 攀爬時雙手向上伸時幾乎把它抓個正著. 因噁心, 冇影. 這是害人害己所為, 惡作劇者要蹲在石邊做這事是有可能失平衡倒裁蔥以致後空翻落山. 攀爬者亦可能跣手或驚嚇抓不穩石.

事件二:
到鳳凰頂時, 見三角測量站柱頂石屎邊冇左一部份, 深至露出底下鋼筋, 再有人把黃色路修路燈把它縛上鋼筋,此破壞公物之舉原因不明, 可能夜宿用來做營燈吧?

light

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