呢度可唔可以有一d有關野外求生術o既介紹呀~?

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   By 梁咁蟲 on Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 9:14 am:  Edit

唔該各位仁兄仁姐仁弟仁妹有冇一d野外求生術或者遇事個陣o既應急方法可以響呢度同大家分享一下呀?萬分感激~

   By NBHB on Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 9:51 am:  Edit

你上鳳凰山用望遠鏡幾乎可以看到東涌高樓的廚房﹐香港還有多少野外﹖

   By LC on Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 10:36 pm:  Edit

There was a TV program at ATV World channel named as " Surviver " about 1 year ago. I think it is a quite good material to be reference. But as what NBHB said, in a place like H.K. such technique becomes not so much useful or necessary.

   By LaoRenJia on Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 11:09 pm:  Edit

You won't find the word "Surviver" in any English dictionary. Try it.

Anyone who has ever watched the TV series "Survivor" would know. It has nothing to do with survival whatsoever. Don't waste your time on it.

You can't be serious if you expect anyone here to give you any idea on wilderness survival. Think about it - how many people here would have to survive in the wilderness or to face a survival situation there, ever ? Help is just a phone call away, justified or not.

If you are really serious about it, look it up at websites other than those in Hong Kong. There are lots of them, as long as you care to look it up yourself. You don't need any help on that, do you?

   By 鬼王 on Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 11:57 pm:  Edit

老人家說得對。真正的野外求生﹐怎會搞個 Tribal Council 出來踢人出局﹖真正的情況是生死關頭。 我沒有遇過要求生的情形。但我通常都在車內放個燒柴的爐﹐ 火種(乾衣機隔出來的衣物籤維 LINT 點火最好﹐點燒烤爐用的點火器﹐ 這東西﹐可點幾千次﹐一塊 MAGNESIUM﹐ 一包約十磅炭﹐ 摺鋸)﹐洋燭﹐兩公升容量炊具﹐十多包即食麵﹐開飲品的粉劑(咖啡﹐茶﹐Powder Gatarade 等)﹐睡袋等等。這是開長途車﹐用具很重。
以前年輕時﹐受野外求生訓練﹐用具差不多﹐都是比較輕便的 version, 但沒有火爐﹐沒有燃料﹐一對四方飯盒﹐另帶天幕雨衣﹐尼龍繩﹐些少魚鉤魚絲釣具﹐五寸獵刀。帶些米﹐小瓶花生油﹐鹽﹐餐館塑料包裝生抽 (撈飯用)﹐刀叉﹐些少藥品﹐水壺﹐玩幾天﹐完全沒有危險。
我看很多求生的網站﹐說最首要的是能夠先起個火﹐再做其他事。水一定要煮沸﹐野外千萬別染上病。

   By saikunger on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 6:57 am:  Edit

www.raymears.com

有邊個唔識ray mears ??

   By LC on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 9:50 am:  Edit

Sorry, I make a mistake on the name of the TV program. I don't remenber the program name exactly. But it seems to be a BBC production just boardcasting in the same period of " the Surviver " !

A fat guy explaining the technigue on outdoor such as how to make a shelter with branch and hay, setting up fire at night to keep out of animals, cooking without cookset but with bamboo, rocks, sand or folding by leave. etc...

IS there anyone how saw the program please tell me the program name.

   By 鬼王 on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 11:53 am:  Edit

我懷疑真正遇難要求生的人﹐大多數都死掉。能生存出來憶述的﹐萬中無一。地球上的海洋﹐兩極﹐沙漠﹐誰能夠拿著一兩盒防風防水火柴﹐長時間生存﹖我聽人說﹐以前在加拿大和阿拉斯加﹐有些獵人在餓極情況下﹐會向住在荒野的開荒戶搶麵粉和糖鹽﹐甚至殺人。
求生的電視﹐書本我看很多﹐但要我煮熟一包蕉葉飯或竹筒飯﹐我看搞足一天也未必可能。 不過﹐那些求生訓練學校的課程學下也好。我猜目的是讓學員在遇事時候﹐有些頭緒﹐不要慌張和放棄。
在香港﹐想要迷失是極之難的事﹐避過高樓的廚房﹐拐個灣又可能看到間士多。我依然認為帶個衛星電話﹐帶多塊電池﹐一張有關路程的地圖就夠了。

   By saikunger on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 5:15 pm:  Edit

LC

"IS there anyone how saw the program please tell me the program name."

thats exactly the ray mear's program

   By 老人家 on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 6:33 pm:  Edit

The series done by Ray Mears and aired on the ATV covered bushcraft rather than 'survival'. There is a world of difference between the two.

Are you sure of what you are you really after?

   By LC on Monday, June 30, 2003 - 11:03 pm:  Edit

Bushcraft.
A very nice word to learn. I didn't heard this word before. Thanks.

   By 鬼王 on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 12:14 pm:  Edit

梁咁蟲﹐ 請看﹕

http://www.geocities.com/yosemite/rapids/8017/index2.html

   By 老人家 on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 11:40 am:  Edit

Let's hope that we all are really bi-lingual.

   By 梁咁蟲 on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 2:19 am:  Edit

衷心多謝鬼王兄O既提供~~


但係我都想講返一樣野,我係一個無知青年,我都係想知道多一D野咁啫,同你地呢D經驗豐富O既前輩高人比,我梗係低過地底泥啦,雖然我想知道O既,對你地黎講,只不過係一D你地不屑一顧O既野,但我都係想本住知多少少O既精神,若然各位前輩係不屑晚輩我O既一問,大可以去關注其他留言,不使理會晚輩我O既,但講咗咁多野,我都要向你地道歉,阻咗你地咁多寶貴時間同埋精神去回應,對唔住,呢D係我O既錯,再一次向前輩們作由衷O既道歉,對唔住


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   By 鬼王 on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 7:06 am:  Edit

呀梁咁蟲﹐我沒有譏笑你呢﹐只是對你的問題看重﹐才直腸直肚。我講的當然是我的意見﹐你何必講這麼悔氣的話﹖
我想﹐現時機場搜查那麼嚴格﹐連指甲鉗也不准隨身帶上機﹐更不用說刀和火種了。
不過﹐我跟本很喜歡這個題目﹐我覺得有遠足行山的經驗﹐對求生最有幫助。

   By 小昭 (202.40.137.197) on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 10:46 am:  Edit

老實說, 初初看到一本書, 叫SURVIVAL, 文字多多, 圖片相片少得可憐, 主要是講一些原則, 100年後應該可以用, 但沒有任何趣味 那是30多年前的事,
現在要找這些資料, 比較上容易了, 紀律團體訓練一般的都有, 教如何生火, 取水, 輕便用具露宿, 保暖, 防寒, 遇事該做和勿做, 生火和取水, 煮食, 建捶酋珛戊ㄛO比較實用的, 但是, 所有的技術學到的, 一生人未必用得著, 但要用時都會救一命, 或者簡單的說, 在困境時好過一點, 勝於不斷祈禱, 而去做一些實質少許的事. 看看災難事故, 掙扎求存不是用甚麼大道理, 高科技, 都是用很簡單的工具或設計去做到,
結論, 學會百藝好傍身, BBQ燒烤間中做一個竹筒飯或乞兒雞, 實際不是什麼難事, 食過包你口水流! :p


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