行山徑怎樣建造?

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   By Smile on Friday, November 26, 1999 - 10:10 pm:  Edit

突然想到以上的問題。我們行山都覺得很辛苦。那麼建築
工人又怎樣興建行山徑呢?平地就容易得多,那麼其它的
又怎樣造呢?當行山徑遠離馬路,他們會否每日也和我們
一樣行山?還是利用直升機作接送和運載工作所須的物資
呢?

   By happy on Friday, November 26, 1999 - 11:30 pm:  Edit

有趣問題,事實我們行山時都經常問這question
happy

   By 榮榮 on Saturday, November 27, 1999 - 2:43 am:  Edit

不知你們所說的是石屎路還晡d路,如果是石屎路多是前軍部幫村民所建,而現今多是政府外判建做,而我見工人是人手搬材料上山,如平路會用細拖拉机運送,近海用船而用直昇机就未見過,另我見在修建白沙澳去荔枝莊那條山徑時,工友們捰b路旁間小屋暫住的。

   By Webmaster on Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 7:33 pm:  Edit

Dear Smile :

A picture worths a thousand word.
Here is two pictures to answer part
of your questions.
road1.jpg
road2.jpg

   By Smile on Thursday, December 09, 1999 - 9:53 pm:  Edit

謝謝你的照片。
那麼一些遠離交通的或崎嶇的行山徑有怎麼辦?很簡單,
例如麥理浩徑的第三、四段。我們也覺得難行和崎嶇。

   By Manson Tsang on Saturday, January 15, 2000 - 3:00 am:  Edit

我見過一次他們築樓梯, 他們也相當聰明. 首先盡量將那山路弄成斜坡, 可用小機器和手推車運載石屎英泥, 他們會從凹位舖起(很重要, 因為從低位起的話, 斜坡開始變成梯級, 用手推車運送就被梯級阻著!!), 一直舖到最低地為止...而樓梯咁直咁整齊當然用木板做模啦... :)石屎乾o左就拆得板喇...

不過就算有小機器幫助, 也很辛苦啦! (但係我自己本人就喜歡行泥路啦, 我指的是'非石屎'山徑, 因為好feel好多, 同埋石屎路實在有點硬, 且和行街分別不大, 大家同不同意呢? :)

Manson

   By Nature Lover on Sunday, January 16, 2000 - 1:30 pm:  Edit

我也較喜歡行「非石屎」路,因為這些路行起來比較舒
服。

一般的石屎路不會經常被修葺,當這種路失修的時候,
會攪到成地碎石,行起來很辛苦。

而石級的路方面,礙於自然環境所限,石級的高低不一,
行起來更辛苦,反而沒有石級的路,我們可以喜歡幾大步
就幾大步。

   By barbie on Tuesday, January 18, 2000 - 1:28 am:  Edit

我知道整山路既係有義工幫手既,
因為我有一個朋友曾經幫過手,
佢話係用d石屎鋪既, 詳情我就唔記得啦.

我都係喜歡行山路多d, 因為令我覺得,
我真係行緊山. 如果行石屎路, 就如mason咁講,
同行街有咩分別呢?
我發現香港有好多山路已經被鋪成石屎路,
令我好冇癮.
而且, 我月頭時行過筆架山,
d路行得好辛苦, 斜坡上一塊塊木板直插入泥裡,
每塊木板都相當高, 我想係正鋪樓梯.
但又冇人拆去木板, 令我地每一步都要好小心,
差點被'kick'到!

   By Stanley on Tuesday, January 18, 2000 - 10:09 pm:  Edit

我亦甚有同感,比較喜歡行一些自然的山徑,當遇到人工鋪成石級時,我總會行旁邊的斜路,這比較行石級冇咁辛苦和感覺上是真真正正的行山。就以八仙嶺為例,以前未經人工鋪砌石屎路時行八仙嶺真係須要著Boot先至好去行,到了現在著波鞋都冇問題,但已經冇晒以前行八仙嶺"激"的感覺。

   By Manson Tsang on Tuesday, January 18, 2000 - 10:10 pm:  Edit

Barbie, 其實筆架山未必舖緊石屎路, 那些木板相信只係暫時用來防止泥土嚴重流失, 如果那裡變成陡斜的沙石坡, 會非常危險呀, 因為那段是麥理浩徑, 很多旅者會遊訪! 但那些木板就令我們很狼狽, 我行過我也覺得很不方便!! :|

Manson

   By 鬼王 on Friday, September 28, 2001 - 11:15 am:  Edit

我是個大年紀的人.約三十多年前,香港的社會福利處,每年暑假,就舉辦工作營,安排青少年做公益活動,包括在新界各處建水泥路. 簡中也有外國(如美國)來的學生參加勞動.我曾經當過導師.在大欖田夫仔村,馬灣島,西貢,上水等地,建筑過一些村路,也有跟英軍合作活動. 建筑時用工具開路,除草,然后釘木板打型,開混凝土,然后舖路.
全部工作,都是人手,擔擔抬抬.現時的旅行俓, 全是後期一些才建的.
我同意,踏著自然青草泥地才覺得有味道.

   By 光仔 on Saturday, January 19, 2002 - 12:08 pm:  Edit

Webmaster 的相片是郊野公園的伙記,因為我識佢.

   By sl on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 10:03 pm:  Edit

還有直升機墜毀時剷出來的...........

   By walker lazy butt on Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 6:38 pm:  Edit

Ha.

But I saw the workers used a helicopter to carry the heavy loads after they have finished "improving" the easy slopes on Dragon Back. What is amazing is that the helicopter couldn't land and it has to fly many (literally) times to clear out the materials. I have counted at least 10 times while walking from Mount Collison to Shek O Peak. The workers carry only the light materials down the hill.

I think many established paths were built originally by those ancient villagers (like Man Lei Cheung Shing, All those Gu Dou), and later "improved" by AFCD (Pak Shin Leng, Dragon Back), volunteers, District Council (Dai Tam Country Trail - that easy wide and flat section only, some sections of Sir Cecil Ride etc), the former British Military, and "illegal villagers" (that road heading down Dai Lo Shan Tunnel).

I think, whenever I hike, there are always some sections being "improved", what it means actually is to turn natural environments into cement stairs, stone paved paths, etc., but closing off and blocking those not being "improved" to prevent natural lovers from walking. That is something ..... "xxxx"

   By Yip on Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 11:01 pm:  Edit

建人工行山徑,既不環保,又浪費金錢.
更加破壞行山人仕登山的意慾!

   By 梓庭 on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 10:05 pm:  Edit

解答1999年 11月 26日 星期五 smile 問題!那麼建築
工人又怎樣興建行山徑呢?平地就容易得多,那麼其它的
又怎樣造呢?當行山徑遠離馬路,他們會否每日也和我們
一樣行山?還是利用直升機作接送和工作所須的物資
呢?

答:所有行山徑,都是由郊野公園的員工做

   By 梓庭 on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 10:18 pm:  Edit

解答 Stanley on 2000年 1月 18日 星期二 問題?
我亦甚有同感,比較喜歡行一些自然的山徑,當遇到人工鋪成石級時,我總會行旁邊的斜路,這比較行石級冇咁辛苦和感覺上是真真正正的行山。就以八仙嶺為例,以前未經人工鋪砌石屎路時行八仙嶺真係須要著Boot先至好去行,到了現在著波鞋都冇問題,但已經冇晒以前行八仙嶺"激"的感覺。

答:因為有些初學者冒八仙嶺名就行,回程時投訴山路難行,所郊野公園的主管知道後安排員工把八仙嶺難行的路徑做好!

   By M6 on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 3:28 pm:  Edit

我幾年前行大嶼山由昂平上鳳凰山時親眼看見有一群20-30人的男囚犯在職員的監督下維修那些由大石砌成的石級。

他們2人一組用竹竿把那些大石搬上山,還有些擔著10加侖的膠水桶。有些坐在路旁休息的正大口地喝水...

我記得那是一個陽光普照的暑假下午...所以千萬不要犯法!

   By BlackStar on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 9:58 am:  Edit

>因為有些初學者冒八仙嶺名就行,回程時投訴山路難行,所郊野公園的主管知道後安排員工把八仙嶺難行的路徑做好!

就係因為有太多人不自量力﹐又不去提升自己的能力﹐硬要大自然去遷就佢自己。這種心態實在不要得﹗

   By AZ on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 7:36 pm:  Edit

如過Blackstar的留言能給郊野公園的主管見到多好。

   By BlackStar on Monday, February 02, 2004 - 12:29 pm:  Edit

據聞當局官員也有定時瀏灠呢類行山網頁的留言。但始終係守株待兔。其實我們也可以多參加漁護處舉辦的"郊野公園遊客小組"
佢地定期開會﹐讓我們反映意見。
詳情請留意郊管局網頁。

   By harry on Monday, February 02, 2004 - 8:33 pm:  Edit

答:因為有些初學者冒八仙嶺名就行,回程時投訴山路難行,所郊野公園的主管知道後安排員工把八仙嶺難行的路徑做好!
據我所知,八仙嶺的石級是因衛奕信徑而建。

   By walker lazy butt on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 1:16 pm:  Edit

Harry, if that is the case, I would rather have Wilson Trail erased (and other trails too). AFCD would simply create many more trails and turn all our natural countryside into concrete paths and cement stairs!

If the path is dangerous, then it might be reasonable to make it safe by paving the paths and making stairways. But the small mounts on top of Pak Sin Leng are not dangerous, steep, nor demanding at all. I simply couldn't understand the logic and reason why AFCD did that abominable horror to that precious natural beauty.

   By P (218.103.50.1) on Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 10:12 am:  Edit

Most of the time, I hate those concrete trails, for they're making you uncomfortable with the hiking boots on. That only suits the sports shoes.

The exception is only when there's a large piece of eroded slope, then I'm not against having a stair on it, for there'll still be some uncovered ground on either side to tramp on.

   By 123 (202.60.251.42) on Friday, December 03, 2004 - 11:07 pm:  Edit

築長城, 建金字塔咪仲難, 所以整行山徑只係小兒科.

   By 高佬池 (218.253.136.249) on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 9:32 am:  Edit

我都非常同意各位的意見,將行山徑舖成石屎路,完全沒有行山feel。

   By alanh999 (219.78.46.228) on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 9:16 pm:  Edit

我有之同一大班朋友行蚺蛇尖,行完之後有一兩個話想係蚺蛇尖條路度整樓梯=.="

   By lightandlilfe (144.214.42.89) on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 10:28 am:  Edit

Can somebody tell me how to get to Dragon Back trail? I went there once, but forgot how exactly to get there. I vaguely remember that I took a bus from Central station.

   By 閒雲野鶴 (219.77.158.129) on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 10:53 pm:  Edit

如果將全港郊野公園內的山徑,全部舖上石屎路,整齊的樓梯,那麼真是(吾不欲觀矣!)亦再提不起行山的興致了•


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