有誰知這是什麼東西?

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   By JW on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 9:47 pm:  Edit

Critical thinking,
>>龍鼓灘有古蹟,你有看到嗎?
Where is the relic? I only know the Emperor Rock at Tai Long of Tuen Mun Trail.

   By kmb59 on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 3:31 pm:  Edit

"How do you know that?" asked Critical Thinking.
Experience. Perhaps the PLA inherited the "tradition" of the British Forces!
You may call the Tuen Mun District Office to check the dates of military exercise. Moreover, if an exercise is conducted there, a radio API will be broadcast before 8 a.m.

   By kmb59 on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 11:16 am:  Edit

"For the sake of safety, should hikers not walk close to the restricted area?"
Critical Thinking, the PLA does not conduct military exercises in the Castle Peak Firing Range on Sundays and public holidays.

   By JW on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 10:15 pm:  Edit

在龍鼓上灘山頂發現以下東西:
引雷針?
1

貌似籃球架?
2

   By PoP on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 3:31 pm:  Edit

JW,

相片都在小冷水拍攝… 不是你相中位置。
今年再遊小冷水, 015 的屋頂砂堆更厚… 相信不出數年亦會變成你相中模樣

曾經進入考究,內堛韃&l窄,勉強能容納輕型機槍…有關建築應該屬於哨崗性質。粗略估計,建築約有 30 年歷史,不算是古跡吧?

   By JW on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 10:58 am:  Edit

PoP,

1) 015 那張相屋頂有胸口這麼高, 相比下現時祇有膝頭這麼高, 3年時間風沙堆高了近0.8米, 再過五年應沒頂, 永埋地下, 古蹟辦對此認會有是古蹟嗎?

2) 007 那張相是否雙清溪?

3) 另外, 較早數月前所談那圓餅柱一直延伸到花香爐頂, mark 14號.

   By PoP on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 12:18 am:  Edit

睇結構,應該係英軍演習遺物

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   By JW on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 6:01 pm:  Edit

在良田坳軍車路以西山脊發現不明小鐵屋三間, 屋頂面跟山坡面平行, 祇有膝頭這麼高, 從高處看下來不易察覺它們存在 - 疑似英軍以前瞭望堡, 監察后海灣.
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   By 路邊消息 on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 12:25 pm:  Edit

爆炸聲不同爆車胎聲.
而且爆炸聲為什麼是連續的.如果這聲音日夜不停的響亮,一定會擾亂民呢!

   By John Wong (Honey_badger) on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 12:29 pm:  Edit

最大可能是爆風喉, 巨型風機氣壓會很大. 聲大到像貨櫃車爆車胎一樣. 風喉脫扣也會發很大'fei fei'嘯聲.

現場可能做高清電視訊號發射站. 但為發射站向住內陸方向?

   By 路邊消息 on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 11:57 am:  Edit

我聽到的不是機器的發聲,而是爆炸的聲.

   By PoP on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 3:52 pm:  Edit

昨日相片:青蝶脊望青山頂

http://www.hiking-gang.net/album_showpage.php?pic_id=212

相信韓亭傍安方的機器是巨型風機,運作時發出聲嚮肯定超過 100 分貝…

   By 中上坑 on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 10:39 pm:  Edit

高清電視訊號發射站?

   By John Wong (Honey_badger) on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 10:18 pm:  Edit

PoP,
>>斷估係俾人爬上去插紅旗

Yes, as seen in last saturday, the post near the Castle Peak summit is being hanged with red flag. Other posts of other hills have not been hanged for anything.

   By John Wong (Honey_badger) on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 10:03 pm:  Edit

路邊消息,

Ha?! Is it? Last Saturday I have walked from Western Corridor bridge's helicopeter point at Ha Tsuen to Castle Peak summit (杯靈雙渡). However, At the time of hiking the Yuen Tau Shan appeared to the same old condition before and the hill top appears not have been damaged in anyway by any explosion or whatever.

Except that I saw a lot of helicopters lifting objects to the Castle Peak summit where there is a retro-fitting works being carried out in the transmission tower (see photo). And, the 韓亭, a giant generator machine is placed over there and appeared to be lifted into the place in some days.

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Maybe the cracking sounds that you had heard was came from this construction works.

By the way I saw at least 5 women, so dareful enough to walk up alone to the Castle Peak separately around 5:00pm, could be to catch up time for seeing sunset.

   By 路邊消息 on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 12:18 pm:  Edit

昨晚8.55pm很清楚聽到如放大型煙花的炮彈聲.歷時約一分鐘,約八至十次炮彈聲從屯門那山頭傳過我的居所→望到青山山頂和圓頭山的.
我深信是一次軍事演習.

   By John Wong (Honey_badger) on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 9:47 pm:  Edit

我想也是. 部隊不貼上勿弄污的禁語可見他們對香港山友公德有信心. 事實杯靈雙渡山野大體很整潔, 就算乾山附近每天這麼旺埸山體都保持得理想, 田良居民山友應記一功.

   By PoP on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 2:06 pm:  Edit

記憶中,解放軍駐港部隊曾經表示不會在港進行實彈演習。
請翻查新聞確實。

1. 當日在發現告示牌位置附近,未有發現新彈坑或新彈藥痕跡。
2. 部份標杆設置貼近操炮區界線,若進行實彈演習會帶出嚴重後果。

   By John Wong (Honey_badger) on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 6:47 pm:  Edit

Critical Thinking,

For points 1 & 2, the restricted zone had been declared in Gazette as Firing Range, therefore, the autority has the right to do any related activities as they intended to.

As the restricted area is firing range, of course the area can be bombed provided the expolosives are not strong enough to affect the neighbourhood urban areas.

For point 3, I believe the authority would be gentle enough to do the training excercise. So far as yet the Authority is very subtle for their daily activities and no nuisance has been made to the public.

   By John Wong (Honey_badger) on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 10:31 am:  Edit

PoP, 多謝提供資料.

>>斷估係俾人爬上去插紅旗
有可能, 大形軍事演練他們好興插紅旗秀出威武.
順帶說, 那個石屎大圓餅旁邊有二個 holding-down concrete blocks (石屎做一立方米大小方塊) 埋入泥底, 面頭有鋼纜扣住石屎大圓餅, 可見作較為長久之用.

   By PoP on Sunday, October 28, 2007 - 12:12 am:  Edit

> PoP兄:點擊後出現──「未獲授權」

啊~ 會員至可以直接睇到相片連結… 經下面連結會睇到:

http://www.hiking-gang.net/fpost935.html#935

> 言歸正傳, 如是投彈靶那麼上面那支不秀鋼直身柱用來干啥用?

斷估係俾人爬上去插紅旗

   By John Wong (Honey_badger) on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 9:21 pm:  Edit

中上坑,

多謝你熱心查找, 我還要這貼文沒有人有興趣再去看.

言歸正傳, 如是投彈靶那麼上面那支不秀鋼直身柱用來干啥用? 會不會飛機上面拋下一個類此呼拉圈東西, 圈中柱身就可以說為中靶? 不秀鋼直身柱樓梯是用來爬上去脫圈再練過?

   By 中上坑 on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 7:19 pm:  Edit

PoP兄:點擊後出現──「未獲授權」

可否告知怎樣才獲授權呀?

   By PoP on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 4:22 pm:  Edit

重九到靈渡西調查,綜合現場環境推論:

1. 標杆為駐港解放軍設置
2. 設置為空中投彈演練用途
3. 號碼為標靶編號
4. 演練為非實彈

合成照片: http://www.hiking-gang.net/album_pic.php?pic_id=151

   By 路邊消息 on Monday, October 08, 2007 - 6:33 pm:  Edit

《Could be small-scale tranmission tower - elec supply problem can be overcome by installing solar panel on top of the post with ...》
根據路邊消息,這東西不是John Wong所說的.

   By John Wong (Honey_badger) on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 9:17 pm:  Edit

To:hiker too

Agreed. Could be small-scale tranmission tower - elec supply problem can be overcome by installing solar panel on top of the post with charging battery which is particular important in cloudy weather. As the mentioned place lies along the restricted firing range and commercial telecom tranmission is difficult to reach from urban areas to hill top, the Liberation army force / govt depts may supplment this shortfall by setting their own transmission tower.

   By hiker too on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 1:22 pm:  Edit

Looks like an unfinished transmission/relay tower. Aerial markers for airplanes do not need such a long pole. The ladder indicates that the pole is intended to support some equipment on top that needs servicing.

   By Happy Hiker on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 12:45 pm:  Edit

半年前,我巳在該區其中一個山頭看到這東西,而旁邊一較大的平地就有一個大大的"H"字.這東西的樹立有三個可能:
*方便直昇機辨認位置.
*有些愛玩某某玩意的發燒友自備天線上山玩玩那玩意.根據本人得知,屯元區有不少這些發燒友的.
*它可以是一個時鐘,當太陽射到某一格,就知道大概幾多點了.

   By John Wong (Honey_badger) on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 10:44 pm:  Edit

To : Andrew
May be the no. 4 stands for the fourth hill top as counted from certain base point and so forth for the other numbered hills.

I guess this may help some pilots locating which particular hill top to reach to in case of help is required - the balded mountain place always break out fire every winter and rescue may be required.

The Pat-Hsin Range consists of 8 named hills but not to the series of '杯靈雙渡' hills. May be govt numbered the hills for easy pin pointing.

To: 愛山人
The 1.5m dia circular base was constructed by concrete. No elec wires connected. Some climbing bars attached to the post.

It is heavy, including the stainless steel posts. Should be lifted in the places by helicopter.

   By andrew on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 9:49 pm:  Edit

我工作的地方也看到圓頭山頂,近來沒留意,但早一個多月左右時常在黃昏看到近山頂有支很長的物體,其他時段是沒有的,好像是有人到近黃昏時裝上似的,看上去應該有成二十尺高,但真的不知到時什麼。

   By 愛山人 on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 9:36 pm:  Edit

請問閣下有否留意貼著沙泥的圓形是鐵還是石呢.你一共拍了幾多個這東西呢?如果這是政府樹立的東西,我不認為有關部門不會正面回答的,因為這並不是甚麼東西.哪這有可能是一些喜歡玩無線電對講機的人樹立的.

   By John Wong (Honey_badger) on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 6:13 pm:  Edit

To: 行山人,
圓頭山山頂沒有地方給直昇機停.

以下再有較為遠景照片給你參照(不同的小山頂拍):

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To: Nite Hiker,
The difficulty is to find the right person of Survey Office to get the right answer. Moreover, you know the govt people is too cautious to give answer to the public no matter they aware/unaware of the matter.

   By 行山人 on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 1:12 pm:  Edit

請問旁邊或附近有沒有直昇機停機坪呢?

   By Nite Hiker on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 11:43 pm:  Edit

Seems to be markers for air-survey.

You better ask the Survey Office of the Lands Dept

   By John Wong (Honey_badger) on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 9:26 pm:  Edit

昨天途經 '杯靈雙渡' 多個山嶺均見以下東西, 有誰知這是什麼東西? 如是測量站, 但旁邊巳有三角測量站 (相片沒映到), 沒理由重覆.

港九其他山徑也沒有些物体.

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