子彈

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   By 999 on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 12:29 am:  Edit

我以前行過一條路
有好多好多子彈的
請問在那兒
那兒是西貢
最後我經過一舊石,好大的在山頂分開兩舊

   By 如花 on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 12:32 am:  Edit

青山就有好多,成地都係

   By kome on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 6:01 pm:  Edit

>那兒是西貢
>最後我經過一舊石,好大的在山頂分開兩舊

我想那兒應是"涌沙頂"

   By Ranger on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 9:06 pm:  Edit

梅子林女婆山頂有中間分開的大石

   By eddie on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 9:34 pm:  Edit

一般大家在行山徑見到的空子彈殼, 全屬練習彈(個頭尖的), 係以前英軍在山頭演習後留低的, 常見有兩種size, 但通常數量不多, 數年前也係涌沙頂見過地上有大量這種彈殼。

至於在青山操炮區內所見的, 全部屬冇頭的真彈殼, 及一些發射過的迫擊炮彈, 亦在某石澗內, 見到一個成尺長,生了z但未爆的真炸彈, 所以大家進入青山操炮區內行山, 要份外小心!

由於用過的彈殼係可以refill再用, 所以藏有任何一種上述所講軍事物品, 都屬刑事罪行, 所以大家行山時見到以上物品, 千祈唔好諗住執番屋企收藏, 分分鐘要坐監o架!

   By on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 1:07 am:  Edit

咦,大嶼山個邊,好似系牙鷹山上定系旁邊個座山頭上都有喔,都有兩堆,我的行友都話唔要得架.

   By 中校 on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 11:31 pm:  Edit

彈殼其實是可以執ge,不過是要把火帽弄走的話,就可以收藏的,因為彈殼沒了火帽,是不可用的。

   By 下士 on Saturday, April 12, 2003 - 12:02 pm:  Edit

Even if you can manage to remove [火帽] (which I doubt VERY MUCH),it remains an "ammunition" as defined in the arms & ammunition ordinance here. Yes, you can stow away one AT YOUR OWN RISK, because you will be prosecuted under that ordinance anyway. The law works that way, whether you possess an empty cartridge, a spent bullet, or a 155 mm shell, because these are "ammunitions" as defined in that ordinance. I for one won't try it.

   By 中校 on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 6:34 pm:  Edit

to下士:
我不知有無誤解你的意思(因你用英文)
只係鑽個窿有幾難呢?

   By SL on Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 12:39 am:  Edit

在無電鑽/ 手搖鑽的情況下, 於一粒可能還藏有未失效火藥的銅彈殼上鑽個窿有幾難呢?
而你撿的那粒彈殼也很可能曾經射殺過人。

廣州的黃埔軍校有實彈射擊, 由手/ 步/ 機槍至各式火炮都有( 步槍子彈五元一粒); 地下彈殼可拾為紀念。

   By eddie on Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 2:37 am:  Edit

>我不知有無誤解你的意思(因你用英文)
>只係鑽個窿有幾難呢?

無論你點破壞或改裝粒子彈, 都冇辦法改變佢係一樣軍火的地位, 俾差佬知到, 一樣照拉!

>而你撿的那粒彈殼也很可能曾經射殺過人。
有冇咁誇呀? 操炮區係俾人演習用, 你估係戰場咩? 香港唔係伊拉克......

>地下彈殼可拾為紀念。
大陸俾你拎走, 唔表示可以帶番香港, 炮杖煙花夠週街買到, 帶番香港一樣犯法!

   By 下士 on Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 6:37 pm:  Edit

I wish I could post a message here in Chinese , if only this website supports Simplified Chinese. Alas, it supports only A FEW characters which are identical with their equivalents in Traditional Chinese (e.g. 下士)!

Back to "Bullets". It's easy to drill a hole in a spent shell. Not so, if you want to REMOVE the ignition cap.

Surely we don't want anyone get prosecuted for having a spent cartridge purely because he or she thinks that it's legal to own one if the ignition cap has been removed or destroyed.

One could go to the local Legal Department's website on the laws of Hong Kong and look for the law on arms and ammunitions. It would tell you that ANY PART of a bullet, with or without an ignition cap, is an ammunition. If you possess it without legal authority, you will be prosecuted IF YOU ARE CAUGHT. Mind you, the sentence could be a custodial one, not necessarily a fine. A few months ago, someone WAS CAUGHT with a few. He got 6 months.

It's just not worth it, does it?

   By Mark on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 7:01 pm:  Edit

哦...
原來香港咁多軍火ga。
to下士兄:
我想問問你說法律條文的出處,因為我對軍事上的東西十分有興趣,想看看自己的軍品有冇犯法

   By 下士 on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 10:23 pm:  Edit

Sorry, Mark. I wish I could type Chinese like you do, but I can't, not with Traditional Chinese.

I think I mentioned it the last time - it's there for all to see on the laws of Hong Kong website. It's got an index there. Look for the one on arms and ammunitions. It should be more than a handful for you.

   By janjan on Monday, April 21, 2003 - 2:18 pm:  Edit

中學時都晌孖指徑一帶地道執到好多子彈殼同子彈帶
果陣仲扣番起成排子彈咁

不過搬屋時失哂蹤了 ......

   By 青山人 on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 10:39 pm:  Edit

在九徑山曾見過59年製的子彈殼,近火帽之底座是突出來而非凹槽。

   By LC on Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 12:57 pm:  Edit

我們曾經執左個迫擊炮彈殼用來當筆筒.

   By DC on Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 9:16 pm:  Edit

無牌擁有子彈殼/炮彈殼也屬違法架.

   By WO on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 4:46 pm:  Edit

青山操炮區D子彈IS ,5.56子彈.L86A1

   By passerby on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 3:14 pm:  Edit

粒子彈殼係咪軍火係由軍火專家去決定,而唔係由你同我,或有沒窿去決定,佢話係....你冇得拗(法官信你定專家?)呢個係灰色地帶,冇事又得,有事亦得,睇下"做唔做野"!

仲有,唔好教壞細路,唔係人人識分別一枚子彈、殼同頭仲有冇殺傷力,如果係滘西執左粒shell來鑽....可以好大獲...so唔識就咪掂..ok?

   By Kin on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 9:09 am:  Edit

曾經係青山見過一種紅色膠殼﹐應是廢彈殼﹐但是粒粒都沒有爆開﹐仲支支都棟係地上。Size 比飯壼略小。
請問有沒有人知道是甚麼??

   By bn on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 9:11 am:  Edit

just get the bullets home if you want to collect them. nobody knows if you do not tell.

   By to Kin on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 6:49 pm:  Edit

Lighting Bomb

   By historian on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 1:00 am:  Edit

anyone has ever picked up WWII items from historic battlefield?
I once picked up a .303 bullet at Wong Nei Cheung Gap Catchwater.
I've also heard some picked up some Japanese Arakasi Rife Cartliage...

   By Peter Chan on Friday, July 30, 2004 - 3:41 pm:  Edit

It is illegal to have such matter and is subject to be charged.

Don't challenge the law!

According to common law, which is the basis of HK legal system, everybody is presummed to know law and follow the law. It's not acceptable to defect by claiming of not aware of the law.

   By M16 (218.103.150.157) on Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 12:17 am:  Edit

我今日係石屋山上見到 一顆有彈頭的子彈...以前英軍都有係石屋山演習架咩..?

   By 猛龍連 (218.102.23.27) on Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 4:34 am:  Edit

以前石屋山頂係軍營禁區,係好耐以前,我都唔記得幾耐,重有直升機坪。


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