昔日的郊野-你能鑑別嗎?

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   By Nite Hiker on Sunday, November 22, 2009 - 10:54 pm:  Edit Posted From: 121.203.95.152

>>舊事重提

Shatin?

The Pat Sin Range in the background?

   By 中上坑 on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 9:17 am:  Edit Posted From: 116.48.133.190

此照片以前已經參考過,唯一有少少看頭是左面海口位,但是要有理想視角,還是要到現場捕捉。

   By JW on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 11:58 pm:  Edit Posted From: 219.78.138.236

比較此近照(大潭灣與大潭港(2000)
http://www.kinhang.org.hk/pic/000806/1054a1055.jpg

   By 中上坑 on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 7:31 pm:  Edit Posted From: 116.48.7.242

>>有近照否?

沒有!

推測而已,如到現場拍照要掌握舊照角度方可見成果,估計在今天70m引水道或者有機會構圖。

   By JW on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 2:39 pm:  Edit Posted From: 219.78.138.175

>>舊事重提
有近照否?

   By 中上坑 on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 8:09 pm:  Edit Posted From: 116.48.5.91

舊題重視
舊事重提

估計圖片拍攝位置,在今日大潭灣浪琴園,望螺洲、浦台方向。

望螺洲

   By JW on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 9:09 pm:  Edit Posted From: 203.218.165.72

>>另外, 箭咀的不明建築物? 」黃埔船塢的鷹架。
還以為珠光戲院那處...及那座小山...

>>再介紹日軍所建忠靈塔
不講不知會它建在這樣的高處

   By 中上坑 on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 7:42 pm:  Edit Posted From: 218.250.63.90

JW:
「另外, 箭咀的不明建築物? 」黃埔船塢的鷹架。

再介紹日軍所建忠靈塔。

九龍灣

圖片來自:粵語協會 www.cantonese.asia

   By JW on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 1:00 am:  Edit Posted From: 218.102.147.205

中上坑
>>只見兩塊突石,請指出第三者?
圈中見多兩塊石?
1b

另外, 箭咀的不明建築物? (年份不詳. 港內見出現戰艦?)
0

   By 佳佳 on Friday, March 27, 2009 - 10:49 pm:  Edit Posted From: 218.250.54.179

JW、中上坑兄:
中間突出就是"九龍石",今時今日在馬頭角碼頭仍然看見。

   By 中上坑 on Friday, March 27, 2009 - 12:57 pm:  Edit Posted From: 116.48.133.190

JW:

「見到水中有3塊分得很開的突石,」只見兩塊突石,請指出第三者?

「 不知誰貓石誰鼠石.」如黃線所示。

另加送大環山遠景如黑線所示。

圖片來自:粵語協會 www.cantonese.asia

九龍灣

   By 中上坑 on Friday, March 27, 2009 - 12:54 pm:  Edit Posted From: 116.48.133.190

JW:

「見到水中有3塊分得很開的突石,」只見兩塊突石,請指出第三者?

「 不知誰貓石誰鼠石.」如黃線所示。

另加送大環山遠景如黑線所示。

圖片來自:粵語協會 www.cantonese.asia

   By JW on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 11:31 pm:  Edit Posted From: 218.103.176.115

>>老照片P4頁民用水上飛機停在九龍灣,較近岸處可以見到佳佳兄介紹的「貓石及鼠石」
見到水中有3塊分得很開的突石, 不知誰貓石誰鼠石.
攝者的黑白照, 映得很清. 當時空氣看來很不錯.

   By JW on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 11:09 pm:  Edit Posted From: 218.103.176.115

中上坑


quote:

﹝沙 宣 道 47 號﹞ 」



多謝幫手! 現場下面為數碼港, 海岸線亦變了.

   By 中上坑 on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 5:05 pm:  Edit Posted From: 116.48.133.190

粵語協會之老照片P4頁民用水上飛機停在九龍灣,較近岸處可以見到佳佳兄介紹的「貓石及鼠石」,參考:
http://www.hiking.com.hk/discus/messages/256/53723.html?1233802833

佳佳 on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 10:55 pm

   By 中上坑 on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 2:23 pm:  Edit Posted From: 116.48.133.190

「粵語協會 www.cantonese.asia 之老照片 : 5星, 不容錯過!!」

果然係好介紹!

   By 中上坑 on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 2:00 pm:  Edit Posted From: 116.48.133.190

「此圖的地方是不是現在的置富花園? 」不是!

圖中近景山崗頂是今天「建 於 一 九 七 一 年 的 高 級 公 務 員 宿 舍 ﹝沙 宣 道 47 號﹞ 」,遠景峽角是南丫島北角山下南咀及右側之北角。

   By JW on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 11:07 pm:  Edit Posted From: 218.102.231.35

粵語協會 www.cantonese.asia 之老照片 : 5星, 不容錯過!!

   By JW on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 10:56 pm:  Edit Posted From: 218.102.231.35

此圖的地方是不是現在的置富花園?
p

圖源:粵語協會 www.cantonese.asia
相題: [薄扶林嶺,當時尚未開發的郊野]

   By saikunger on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 11:18 pm:  Edit Posted From: 219.77.68.232

就我所知的清水灣道和hiram's highway 說說 :

日佔後在日軍大埔仔附近安營結寨..在這軍營建路通九龍...這是現在清水灣道的芻型

1945 年後英軍仍用大埔仔這軍營 till the issue of 1997 arise, 科技大學在這地方建校和再擴建

45 年後英軍為答謝西貢一帶的居民救助被擊落的盟軍飛行員 (太平洋戰爭時香港是被盟軍空襲的其中一個地方..主要是機場港口和相關設施), 在現在鄭植之中學位置開一車路往西貢墟

在這之前西貢墟對外的 mechanicalized transport 是通港島的渡輪

這路就是現在的 hiram's highway, 到了今天仍存路旁數塊 milestones, 上刻有 "XX miles from star ferry"

hiram's highway 通車初期 till 1960 年代仍屬禁區, 鄭植之設閘限制非厚居民車輛, 路面設計為單線雙行 ... 每 30分鐘轉行車方向一次

西貢公路在60 年代伸展到大網仔

及後萬宜水庫工程將這路帶到海下/糧船灣/西灣亭

   By Nite Hiker on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 9:44 pm:  Edit Posted From: 219.77.152.98

I agree that it should not be Sai Kung Camp if the photo was taken in 1932.

   By JW on Monday, January 05, 2009 - 11:04 pm:  Edit Posted From: 218.103.187.80

中上坑
按維基百科以下所言, 二次大戰後, 皇家海軍K Potts, 當時正處理修復日軍時所佔領西貢一條路, 因此人稱自己極喜歡食美國罐頭香腸, 遂被取笑為香腸公路:
"The officer in charge, K Potts, was nicknamed Hiram ('Hiram K Potts') because of his alleged passion for an American brand of tinned sausages. Hence 'Hiram's Highway'."

   By 中上坑 on Monday, January 05, 2009 - 1:57 pm:  Edit Posted From: 116.48.133.190

康健路1971年前後才興建!

1932年以前西貢沒有車路,查「Hong Kin Road」---現在是西頁對面海康健路,即是官門漁村於1971年興建萬宜水庫時,遷徙漁民的其中一條新村所在地。

以下是網上找出來的資料。
「必須承認的是,西貢在二次大戰以前,是未有道路連接對外,一般只能取道海路。直至1932年駐港英軍出於軍事需要而興建了清水灣道,由九龍黃大仙一直到清水灣為止。二次大戰時日軍也按著軍事需要,修建了西貢公路。西貢公路英文名為「Hiram」,此「Hiram」一字帶有濃重的日本味道,實質隱含了當年西貢公路興建時的背景。」

出處可參考
http://hk.geocities.com/ntoreg/village_3.htm

圖片不是該處,繼續再找!

   By JW on Sunday, January 04, 2009 - 11:06 pm:  Edit Posted From: 218.103.187.148

Nite hiker,
To post a photo, try as follows:
anyname1
anyname2
anyname3

   By JW on Sunday, January 04, 2009 - 10:58 pm:  Edit Posted From: 218.103.187.148

Nite hiker,
Using Google Earth to make simulation by viewing from your mentioned Hong Kin Road to sea direction.

Still unsure this answer. Anybody can help?
1

   By Nite Hiker on Sunday, January 04, 2009 - 10:27 pm:  Edit Posted From: 219.78.19.146

The photo may be taken from a knoll above the Tsiu Hang looking east towards the developing Sai Kung Camp.

The road on the left may be Hiram's Highway. The road across the photo may be the thoroughfare of the camp which is called Hong Kin Road now.

I have labeled the photo but do not know how to upload for your comment.

   By 中上坑 on Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 10:03 pm:  Edit Posted From: 218.250.62.99

「可能是愉景灣至銀礦灣一帶.」---並無不敬,那一帶那年代那有車路?所以,仍然要再找答案!

   By JW on Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 9:09 pm:  Edit Posted From: 219.77.50.222

補充: 直覺海岸古大屋, 可能是愉景灣至銀礦灣一帶.

   By JW on Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 9:04 pm:  Edit Posted From: 219.77.50.222

>>再三研究,不會是灣仔!
明白不是灣仔.
小小佳是見到以下書中照:
7850

   By 中上坑 on Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 6:25 pm:  Edit Posted From: 218.250.62.99

再三研究,不會是灣仔!

借用JW上載的黑白照再看一次!

灣仔?

   By JW on Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 8:31 pm:  Edit Posted From: 219.77.50.2

成哥,
>>童軍山即現在柴灣公園內最高的地方...
明白了! 多謝幫手!

   By 大麻成 on Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 7:23 pm:  Edit Posted From: 203.218.233.180

[圖源者說:沙灣內突起小草山是童軍山]

童軍山即現在柴灣公園內最高的地方.此照片相信年代久遠,小弟60年代初初遷入時,童軍山旁為避風塘.而另一邊(現港鐵站)海面為木排(如陰澳的木材倉庫)

   By JW on Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 3:41 pm:  Edit Posted From: 218.103.176.61

>>placing a high rank female officer there under the camoflogue as a cleaning lady

Your story sounds intriguing!
I would wonder whether the female lady would success or not.

   By saikunger on Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 1:33 pm:  Edit Posted From: 203.78.33.133

"小西灣空軍華人宿舍"

more than barrack/quarters la, this place was operated by british military intelligence units as a radio recon n transmission base. during vietnam war, it serves as one of the beacons for B52s took off from kwan to north vietnam.

shortly after closing down few yrs b4 1997 there was an article in local chinese newspaper telling that china counter intelligence unit manage to infiltrate the station by placing a high rank female officer there under the camoflogue as a cleaning lady


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