真係咁得人驚?

Hong Kong Hiking Web: 討論組 Forum: 真係咁得人驚?
   By 剛路過 (Qqkk) on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 1:58 pm:  Edit Posted From: 116.48.107.199

可能想針對本地行山隊搞的(返大陸的境外線),

   By 靈山子 on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 7:51 pm:  Edit Posted From: 219.76.22.183

I suppose they might be encouraging hikers going alone solitarily into the wilderness. Yeah, that's my usual practice. It's a way of getting into the peace and freedom (letting go), an ideal of what the so-called “親近大自然” should be.

“…自行組團,人數一夠即出發。…”
他們所針對的又似乎只是本地收費團。

   By ho kam (Kk12339) on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 4:22 pm:  Edit Posted From: 116.48.38.163

香港行山隊活動一向是民間活動,政府不宜管得太多,亦好難講立法管制,香港行山團體有經驗,負責的搞手多得很!
再講香行山活動咁耐,有過乜(大意外)?每次行山活動團體都會事先將行程(難度)級別告知,讓參加者早有準備,量力而為!保險只不過事後作點(金錢補償),講到尾都係個句(量力而為)咪樂極生悲!!!

   By Sun Dance (Sundance) on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 7:37 am:  Edit Posted From: 75.161.50.156

> "Like smoking, please quit hiking, go shopping and be HEALTHY."

Wow! SY, I agree with you. The previous post has to be a joke. I can't imagine any educated person could be so completely ignorant as to compare hiking with smoking!

   By SY on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 11:53 pm:  Edit Posted From: 219.77.45.38

This is a propaganda trying to brainwash the public against the local hiking groups so as to make way for the "authority" to monopolize the country side and the geo parks. Ironically they are the ones who are least experienced and ill-informed in the wilderness and may have never set foot on the esxotic places in the wilderness.

The hiking groups had been running in the territory for at least half a century and serious accidents are extremely rare. The so-called geo parks areas were actually discovered and constantly being visited by the local groups. Without there disclosure of them the "authority" won't even know the existence of such places of immense beauty.

These wild places do not belong to, nor possessed by anyone in high places. They belong to every citizen. The dangers and risks anticipated by such propaganda are exaggerated. Hikers experienced or not are extremely self-protective. Those trying to obsessed themselves by the beliefs of "zero accident" are looking at these lovely places from the point of view of an inexperiened non-hiker with serious height phobia. They know nothing about the ability of the general hikers. They don't even know what winds are blowing in what seasons and the corresponding coastal water conditions. And when is the proper time to land,or how to land safely on the remote islands. Ask any fishing folks and they will tell how ignorant and unrealistic such fearful remarks are! Safety precautions are essential, but proposals that are unrealistic and with hidden agenda are appalling and are truly misleading to the public.




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   By tpyuen (Hiking) on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 10:51 am:  Edit Posted From: 58.251.42.78

In order to provide safe hiking service in the future, we are proposing hiking without application may be subjected to maximum penalty HK$XXXX and XX years in prison.
HK tax payers have invested so much money to keep HK green and provide free helicopter service. Moreover, there are so many high value added private property on the hill. We must protect the rights of the owner to preserve the view and the road around the owner's property. Your appearance on the hillside will induce a certain degree of affection to the scenery (offence visual environment conservation ordinance), lower the flat price and even damage our breeding economy after Tsunami. Be a responsible citizen. Like smoking, please quit hiking, go shopping and be HEALTHY. We have received many complaints to request for censorship of free network hiking activity. Please submit your valuable comment before the deadline Apr 27, 10. Let's keep it up to make HK cleaner.

   By Wing on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 7:03 pm:  Edit Posted From: 75.95.204.242

"謝偉俊認為,網上本地團行程上山下海非常危險,直斥政府應強行規定港舉辦的旅行團都要由持牌旅行代理商承辦。"

分明旅行社想找生意做﹐但他們對“上山下海”毫無經驗﹐只會盲人騎瞎馬。

事實上行山一定有些危險﹐越險的線越險﹐不言而喻﹐所有跟團行山的應該知道﹐不知道或不同意的應該不要去﹐躲在家中看電視。

   By ho kam (Kk12339) on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 8:02 am:  Edit Posted From: 218.250.100.6

網上組團行山 乏監管搵命博
(轉載東方日報)

【專案組報道】愈來愈多網友透過網上渠道組織本地旅行團,但這些本地團安全成疑。本報發現,為數不少的網上本地團搞手除無領取導遊牌照外,更連目的地都未去過,卻「柴娃娃」組團前往水塘、石澗及險壁等危機四伏之地旅遊探險。旅遊業界擔憂這些本地團的搞手經驗不足,出意外會造成重大傷亡,要求政府監管。根據法例,對象若是港人的本地團,不受《旅行代理商條例》監管,毋須經由持有旅遊業議會導遊證的人士提供服務也可自行組團。
對行程一知半解

隨着上網日漸普及,愈來愈多網友在網上討論區自行組團,人數一夠即出發。本報近日發現,多個網上本地團的搞手對行程一知半解,安全意識不足,若團友發生意外或傷亡事故時,是否有能力應變,或者能否帶領團友抵達安全地方,成為疑問。

曾透過網上舉辦大嶼山一日遊的搞手程先生就踢爆這些旅行團非常危險,他稱組團時並無列出詳盡資料,結果不少參加者都無行山經驗,加上程先生又是初哥,行程中有多名女團友中暑及扭傷腳部,最終要將行程縮短。

香港郊遊活動聯會秘書李以強認為政府應與時並進,規範有歷奇或風險性質的本地團。潛水歷險會課程總監區紹堅也建議網友報團時應選擇信譽良好的旅行社。立法會議員謝偉俊認為,網上本地團行程上山下海非常危險,直斥政府應強行規定港舉辦的旅行團都要由持牌旅行代理商承辦。

香港專業保險經紀協會公共關係主席任家鑫表示,市民參加非註冊旅行社舉辦或無註冊旅隊的一日遊,一旦發生意外,有可能不受保險保障,因一般意外保險的保障範圍,並不包括攀石及激流等危險活動。

任家鑫提醒市民不應參加此類本地團,除無保險賠外,舉辦團體或領隊都無向政府登記註冊,發生事故時,可以「拍拍屁股」不顧而去,團友無法索償。


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